Comments on: The Chinese Are Here Already! https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/ The Events in Human Resources and Employee Relations space, and in My World through my eyes. Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:58:56 +0000 hourly 1 By: Yashaswini https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3959 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:05:24 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3959 An interesting point I would like to bring to light here. A few weeks back, I met a lady who is running an organisation that tries to provide skills to the youth (18 to 26 years) from the slums, to make them employable. The idea is to reduce crime, make them more suitable for employment at better jobs than just labour intensive ones and so on. They would of course be trained with basic computer skills for clerical and secretarial jobs – routine tasks that most organizations need people for.
Interestingly enough they found that though the young men enrolled, many of them left it half way because of the effort it took and many others, completed the course and joined some jobs, only to leave those half way because they were “not glamorous” or “quick cash” or “too low-down”.

This is interesting simply because it throws up a very simple fact – in India right from the rigid caste system days, we have never been able to develop the concept of “dignity of labour”. When an entire society doesn’t have it, how can we expect individuals to find satisfaction in jobs that they will only see as “mundane” and “a loss of their dignity”?
Possibly, while there is a larger question about how the government can develop our youth to perform certain jobs, there is also the looming question of whether the youth would be motivated themselves to work on these jobs. When a social and occupational system is geared towards paying Rs. 87 per day for that job to get done, what motivation and what value is a man to set by that job? How seriously is he expected to take it? And how well will he actually try to do it?

]]> By: Medha https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3960 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:59:54 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3960 Wonder how this makes cost benefit sense to these organisations, and since when did these large scale undertaking care about quality…if that is indeed the reason why they hire these 'skilled workers'.
China has historically been able to smuggle in myriad issues/persons/objects, since Nehruvian times and the days of the Chinese agression…(!)the trend continues…the China-Tibet railroad is doesnot bode well for this trend…

]]> By: Abhijit https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3961 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:27:51 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3961 Dear Sir,

Your post also indirectly raises a important consequntial issue.

Why are the Central and Regional Trade Union organisations silent on this issue.

Have they not noticed this or is it not percevied as a problem..

Is it Indifference on the part of Unions or ??

]]> By: Anonymous https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3962 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:08:35 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3962 I guess being away from home my view varies a bit.

The question is not how to stop Chinese or control the number of Chinese workers coming into India? But why are the coming? What value/skill or advantage do they bring which cannot be provided by Indians in Chhattisgarh?

RIL, Adani are professional companies which managers looking for efficiencies all the time; why would they bring in Chinese at such high cost; if it did not make sense.
It is an excellent opportunity to introspect and plug the skill/knowledge/expertise gaps.

To end just two observations:
* If Chinese should not come to India; then should Indians not go to China? In addition, if we extend the argument; should no one go anywhere?
* We welcome foreign capital; if go asking for it; then why not foreign workforce?

Patwardhan Saab: Happy Diwali and Happy New Year.

Regards,
D J Rao

]]> By: Vasan https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3963 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:13:34 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3963 This certainly comes as a " shocking " revelation . India has both abundence of skilled & unskilled labor .. and surely does not need any " imports "
Had read that Hon Home Minister S/P.C has tightened on business visas ..
Hope to see reduction in nos soon

]]> By: Vaibhav dhawan https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3964 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:16:21 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3964 It is saddening indeed that these projects dont rely on their own resources to execute projects and that too in the light of the fact the kind of industry they are in like metro,petroleum..where india already has the self reliance…if the kind of work is sheer manual then its very strange to hire the competition when UP,Bihar..labor force is dying for work in home

Vaibhav

]]> By: Travel.of.the.times https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3965 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:25:58 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3965 This comment has been removed by the author.

]]> By: Kavi https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3966 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:57:09 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3966 The danger indeed is omnipresent ! All times !

]]> By: Anonymous https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3967 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:46:06 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3967 The danger is more grave than what it appears to be. Many of the projects where chinese laborers are working are of strategic importance. It can have serious ramifications.Some of the projects are not from private sector but from the public sector, I don't think any thing can beat that.
I guess the Governement needs to be asked to review this immediately. I guess a good subject for PIL.

]]> By: Counter Strike https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3968 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:38:42 +0000 https://vivekvsp.com/2009/10/the-chinese-are-here-already/#comment-3968 hmmm… firstly, thanks for making us aware of such important developments !
More than 90% of our labour force is in the unorganised sector, where their employability is an issue due to lack of formal training as well as education. With this chinese onslaught, the external environment poses just as much of a challenge as the indigenous conditions…
Economics states that there are 3 main factors of production-Land, Labour and Capital. Land is already a bone of contention, Labour seems to be up next.. We better be watchful, lest the Orient Express runs us over !

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